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Subject: Hadith ThaqaLAYN
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kekasih 23.11.10 - 05:39pm
according to the Wahabis, they follow Quran n Sunnah n rejects to follow the Ahlul Bayt. so, what happen to Ahlul Bayt? ok heres to answer the Wahabis... - http://hadithlistcollection.blogspot.com/2010/04/refuting-hadith-al-thaqalayn-two.html *
kekasih 23.11.10 - 05:54pm
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Hadith al-Thaqalayn: The Two Weighty Things Answers
Hadith Thaqalayn is a very Famous Hadith for the Shia followers, and this Hadith has been collected by both Shia and Sunni Hadith Books. Hadith Thaqalayn is as follows:
The Messenger of God (SAAW) said, ''Indeed I leave 2 things behind (after my passing away) for my Ummah (Islamic Nation or Islamic Community) to follow, which if you strictly adhere to, you shall never go astray, Quran and Ahlul Bayt (People of the House)''
We have noticed that our brother has posted this article. This article is related to Hadith Thaqalayn (Two weighty things, meaning the Quran and Ahlul Bayt).
http://www.ahlelbayt.com/articles/rebuttals/thaqalayn
We will if God wills, reply an answer to his articles.
In this article we will respond to some of the points the brother has made, and also, we will add some of our points of our own.
If anyone wants to know who Ahlul Bayt is, they can read this article below:
http://hadithlistcollection.blogspot.com/2010/06/word-games-with-verse-3333-answers.html
http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter1a/3.html
http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter1a/4.html
http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter1a/5.html
http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter1a/6.html
http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter1a/7.html
http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter1a/8.html
http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter1a/9.html
http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter1a/10.html
We will start with, the brothers first sentence.
The six major books of Hadith are referred to as the Sihah Sittah(Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, Thirmidhi, Sunan ibn Majah, Sunan Nasai, and Sunan Abu Dawood). However, the other four contain a mixed bag, with Hadith ranging from Dhaeef (weak) to Sahih (authentic).
Even though this article is related to the Hadith Thaqalayn, we will slightly address the Parallel Hadith which is more known in the Sunni and Wahabi followers, that is:
The Messenger of God (SAAW) said, ''Indeed I leave 2 things behind (after my passing away) for my Ummah (Islamic Nation or Islamic Community) to follow, which if you strictly adhere to, you shall never go astray, Quran and Sunnah''.
WE WOULD LIKE THE LET THE VIEWERS KNOW THAT NO WHERE IN THE SIHAH SITTAH IS THIS HADITH OF THE QURAN AND SUNNAH MENTIONED. THIS HADITH HAS BEEN COLLECTED BY OTHER SUNNI HADITH BOOKS THAT IS NOT PART OF THE SIHAH SITTAH. SUCH A FAMOUS HADITH IN THAT THE SUNNIS AND WAHABIS KNOW (HADITH OF QURAN AND SUNNAH), YET FOR SURE THEN, THIS HADITH SHOULD HAVE DEFINETELY BEEN COLLECTED IN THE SIHAH SITTAH. THERE IS A WHOLE SECTION IN SAHIH BUKHARI, KNOWN AS THE SECTION OF THE QURAN AND SUNNAH.
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/092.sbt.html
YET NOT EVEN IN THIS SECTION, IS THEIR ONE HADITH THAT THE PROPHET (SAAW), LEFT 2 THINGS BEHIND TO FOLLOW, QURAN AND SUNNAH.
HOWEVER, IN THE SIHAH SITTAH, THERE ARE ATLEAST 4 HADITHS ABOUT HADITH THAQALAYN. IT IS AMAZING THAT IN THE SIHAH SITTAH, THERE IS NOT ONE HADITH OF THE QURAN AND SUNNAH, YET THEIR IS ATLEAST 4 HADITH OF HADITH THAQALAYN. THIS IS SURELY SOMETHING THE VIEWERS SHOULD PONDER ABOUT WHEN THEY READ THIS ARTICLE, THAT HADITH OF THE QURAN AND SUNNAH IS SUCH A FAMOUS HADITH IN FOR THE SUNNI AND WAHABI FOLLOWERS, YET NEITHER THE MOST RELIABLE HADITH COLLECTORS, SAHIH BUKHARI, SAHIH MUSLIM, SUNAN IBN MAJAH, SUNAN NASAI, SUNAN ABU DAWOOD, THIRMIDHI, HAVE NOT COLLECTED EVEN ONE HADITH OF THE QURAN AND SUNNAH.
The 4 Hadiths, of Hadith Thaqalayn that have been narrated, 2 Hadith exist in Sahih Muslim, and 2 Hadith exist in Thirmidhi.
- 2 Hadith in Sahih Muslim are:
Sahih Muslim, Hadith 6225, or internet is Book 031, Number 5920:
http://www.loveforahlulbayt.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52&Itemid=596222.6223.6224.6225.6226.6227.6228.6229
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/muslim/031.smt.html031.5920
- 2 Hadith in Thirmidhi are:
Thirmidhi, Hadith 3786, revealed in Mount Arafat:
http://www.loveforahlulbayt.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54&Itemid=613786
Thirmidhi, Hadith 3788:
http://www.loveforahlulbayt.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54&Itemid=613788.3789
We quote from the brothers article:
This version has been narrated in Sunan Tirmidhi and is classed as Dhaeef (weak).
ACCORDING TO THE ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF THIRMIDHI, TRANSLATED BY ABU KHALLYL, WITH FINAL REVIEW FROM ''ISLAMIC RESEARCH SECTION DARUSSALM'' IN SAUDI ARABIA, HAS DECLARED BOTH OF HADITH THAQALAYN SAHIH (AUTHENTIC) IN THIRMIDHI, AND NOT DAIF.
INFACT, THE BROTHER HAS CRITISIZE HIS OWN SUNNI SCHOLARS OF HADITH COLLECTORS, JUST LIKE THE WAY HE HAS CRITISIZE HIS OWN SUNNI SCHOLARS OF HISTORIANS.
We quote from the brothers article of criticizing his own Sunni Scholars who collected Hadiths:
The reader might wonder why these reports can be found in Sunni books, but such a wondering is based on ignorance of the Sunni science of Hadith
We quote from another article of his criticizing his own Sunni Scholars who wrote Historian Books:
http://www.ahlelbayt.com/articles/islam/tabar
This has been answered here:
http://hadithlistcollection.blogspot.com/2010/06/tarikh-history-of-tabari.html
If the Brother criticised his own Hadith Collectors and Historians, then maybe the brother should create his own Sect with his own Scholars.
So now we will look at the 4 Hadiths that have been collected in the Sihah Sittah, of Hadith Thaqalayn.
1. Thirmidhi, Hadith 3786, revealed in Mount Arafat
Jabir ibn Adbullah said: ''I Saw the Messenger of God (SAAW) during his Hajj (as the Prophet (SAAW) performed only 1 Hajj in his life), on the Day of Arafah (where he (SAAW) delivered his farewell speech). He (SAAW) was upon his camel Al-Qaswa, giving a Khutbah (farewell speech), so he (SAAW) said: O people! Indeed, I have left among you, that which if you hold fast to it, you shall not go astray: The Book of God (Quran), and my family, the People of the House (Ahlul Bayt).'' (Sahih)
http://www.loveforahlulbayt.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54&Itemid=613786
Notice the place where the Prophet (SAAW) mentioned Hadith Thaqalayn, which is in his farewell speech. The Prophet (SAAW) wanted to warn his Ummah (Islamic Nation) that stick to these two things, Quran and Ahlul Bayt, and you will not be misguided after me. The Prophet ( *
